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In order to game online you will need a Gold Membership and it will cost around £40 for a 12 months membership, excellent value for money,you will get a free silver membership when you purchase a 360,but it is limited to what you can do on live.
Thought so; the £40 is great, and was the same on the old Xbox, with live, and came with headset and a starter pack, I just bought one per year.
I dont choose the Xbox 360 because it came out first, I chose it becase I knew, for what I wanted, It was better, and also alot cheaper. I'd also like to say, that "boycotting" a particular company is pointless, Microsoft has built up to where they are; any company can stretch to a slightly different market, and I've justified moreso why in Microsofts Case with consoles in my post above..
Can you please tell me, what do you find wrong with Microsoft as a global company? I can't see any problem with their morals, no child-labour, no corruption as far as I can see, I mean come on, maybe its you whos been caught out by commercialism, your favoring on company from another!
To tell the truth, i dont care about the company who makes it. If it was an Amstrad 360, they yeah, it might not have the reputation, but If it was the same, i'd buy it. The console manufactures WANT a console war, they WANT you to think that, it pushed up demand and pushes up profits easily, and freely.
I just buy the best that I need, regardless of the company, maybe your a victim to commeralism, ah, do you actually know what commercialism is?
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Commercialism, in its original meaning, is the practices, methods, aims, and spirit of commerce or business. Today, however, it is mainly used as a critical term, referring to the tendency within capitalism to try to turn everything in life into objects and services that are sold for the purpose of generating profit; commercialization,
You seem in favor of Sony here, so read the definition above, and you'll see that you are a "victim" of it. Also, may I re-clarify, that I dont choose a product for its brand, which you do.
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Thre were A LOT better games back in the NES and Genesis days than nowadays
Would you like to expand on that strange comment? Better Games? Well technologically no, gameplay, no, I mean, come on, noone said Video Games are "Better" now (such a broad term) but I just said consoles will be merged in to computers in such a way.
Oh and applet, i'n not sure what you mean, but Xbox live is a paid only service, but its very cheap, and well worth it.
Lol... I hardly own any Sony products. So how can you say I'm a victim of it? I prefer their gaming machine, because IMHO, it's better, and they have a better library of games that I like.
And, by better games I mean, that they had a lot better gameplay than a lot of the games nowadays. They HAD to have better gameplay because they didn't have as good graphics. Do you recall a game called Pong? Or Breakout? Or Pac-Man? Or the most recognized gaming icon in history: Mario Bros.? They may not have had the best graphics, but they sure were fun to play. I still like to play my old Genesis, or play online versions of games like Space Invaders or Breakout.
And, consoles need to stay separate from PC's. Consoles are supposed to be focused on gaming. PC's are mult-function tools, mostly used for working (and yes, gaming, but main focus is types of work).
Lol... I hardly own any Sony products. So how can you say I'm a victim of it? I prefer their gaming machine, because IMHO, it's better, and they have a better library of games that I like.
Thats what I said isn't it? Its what you want from a gaming console, I said I prefered the Xbox 360 from what I want from a game Console; at first, you were critisising out preference to the Xbox 360.
Now, you are a victim of the commercialism from Sony, otherwise you wouldn't have critisised out preference to the Xbox 360 in the first place, instaed you would have accepted our views and propery justified why you think the PS3 suits your needs better, which you didn't come close to.
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They may not have had the best graphics, but they [retro games] sure were fun to play.
This is a complex debate, I agree, but not because simpy they have less advanced graphics. I think its phsycological, to go back to the ways we used to play games seems exciting; its the same thing as to why its enjoyable to do nostalgic activities. Also they are simplistic, and easy to get yor head around, yet challenging. Try the Donkey Kong Game on this forum, however, this is for Retro games discussion, not Xbox 360 Discussion.
Now, your using Retro Games to back up your opinions against the Xbox 360?
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And, consoles need to stay separate from PC's. Consoles are supposed to be focused on gaming. PC's are mult-function tools, mostly used for working (and yes, gaming, but main focus is types of work).
Now thats just a pointless, unjustified comment, that I have already opposed in this and other threads, with good justification! Try debating the topic, and replying to my argument as opposed to repeating a narrow minded and unformed statement.
Thats what I said isn't it? Its what you want from a gaming console, I said I prefered the Xbox 360 from what I want from a game Console; at first, you were critisising out preference to the Xbox 360.
Now, you are a victim of the commercialism from Sony, otherwise you wouldn't have critisised out preference to the Xbox 360 in the first place, instaed you would have accepted our views and propery justified why you think the PS3 suits your needs better, which you didn't come close to.
No, I'm not a victim of Sony... You're a victim of Microsoft. The only game that MS really focuses on is Halo, which is overrated. There's a lot more better shooters out there (Unreal Tournament kicks Halo's ass, and TimeSplitters, and Red Faction). Halo's just an overrated FPS that isn't original at all =\. Microsoft just whores it out, and makes such a fuss about it.
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Now, your using Retro Games to back up your opinions against the Xbox 360?
No... That was more of a side-comment more than anything, stating that a lot of games are more graphic-focused than gameplay focused (which caused me to make the Gameplay or Graphics topic).
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Now thats just a pointless, unjustified comment, that I have already opposed in this and other threads, with good justification! Try debating the topic, and replying to my argument as opposed to repeating a narrow minded and unformed statement.
An unjustified comment? I do not believe so... Even Nintendo is being forced to have an Internet browser. It shouldn't have to be made so consoles are forced to become Internet-enabled. Online multiplayer, that's one thing, but especially all this stuff like being able to download things onto the console... Why? Isn't that what most people have computers built for?
Meh... Microsoft needs to stay out of consoles... They're making them to much like computers. Consoles dont HAVE to play DVD's and CD's (isn't that what DVD players and stereo's are for?), or go online (that's what friends are for ).
I agree with you CarnageX. That's why they are called gaming consoles. And also, all of the extras that companies pack into their systems make them much more expensive than they need to be. Most of the DVD players in consoles these days aren't even good quality, in a few years they will be outdated.
In my opinion, I think consoles and PC's will merge, which would be very bad. And much harder to own multiple consoles.
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I agree, and I also think that the Xbox 360 is probably the best next gen console
I don't think you can talk unless you have actually played other next-gen consoles. And you're talking about commercialism. Tsk, tsk.
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Hi Ranomator, what is it you don’t like about the 360? also do you own a 360? you are right about Microsoft maybe rushing the launch and yes there were a few hicups,but are all sorted,(All company's have launch issues)I’ve sold over 100 360's and not one have suffered any problem of any kind
All companies do not have launch issues. Nintendo has never had any problems with launch issues and they have released more consoles than any other company. This just goes to show that poor workmanship was put into making the Xbox 360.
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The Ninetno Hype, as with the gamecube, is always overdone, and there consoles are usually somewhat a dissapointment.
N-I-N-T-E-N-D-O. Have you ever even owned a Nintendo console? Either past or current generation, they have some of the finest games around. Also, with a super low price, I think many people would agree with me when I say that their consoles aren't a disappointment.
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Let me see Nintendo or Xbox 360,its a tuff call but the winner is Xbox 360. Shame on you wutang
I call this favoritism. You haven't even played other consoles are you are already declaring the 360 the winner. I am disappointed with you. You should be saying "shame on me [800fsbgang]" instead of on wutang.
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Xbox 360™ delivers the most powerful console, the next generation of Xbox Live®, amazing digital entertainment experiences, and best of all, a flood of hot new game titles.
OMG. Have you been living under a rock for the past year or so? Xbox 360, is not the most powerful console. The PS3 is. Power, doesn't really matter, but I just thought I should point that out to you.
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Let me see Nintendo or Xbox 360,its a tuff call but the winner is Xbox 360.
Shame on you wutang
I call this favoritism. You haven't even played other consoles are you are already declaring the 360 the winner. I am disappointed with you. You should be saying "shame on me [800fsbgang]" instead of on wutang.
Excuse me,and for you information I have played on all consoles,as I repair them for a living,and I dont slag other consoles off,in my opinion the 360 is the best around at the moment .
The Quote you are referring to was from somebody that is now banned and was purely intended as a joke ,try reading again ,and is none of your business.
You are defending somebody,that is renowned for slagging certain consoles off,and getting very high rate in his posts as he clearly hates the 360,try reading all this guys posts.
As your also a new member,maybe try introducing yourself first ,rather than baiting other members to be drawn into your post.
So if you can post anything decent dont post at all.
windwaker please read the rules: if you had of you will have noticed that:
NO TROLLING OR FLAME WARS. Trolling and/or attempting to bait others into a flame war will not be tolerated. Any posts we deem to fall in this category will be deleted.
However because that was your first post i will let you off, please note that you should always read the enitre thread before you post anything this gives you the gist of what is happening.
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Glad to see somebody with some sense agrees with me . (That's a joke for all you high-strung staff out there =P).
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Excuse me,and for you information I have played on all consoles,as I repair them for a living,and I dont slag other consoles off,in my opinion the 360 is the best around at the moment .
Well of course it is at the moment, it's the only next-gen console currently out =\. And what I was saying was in my opinion the PS3 (and Wii of course) will be better. I don't see that many games for the 360 that'll stand out, that won't be cross-platform.
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NO TROLLING OR FLAME WARS. Trolling and/or attempting to bait others into a flame war will not be tolerated. Any posts we deem to fall in this category will be deleted
He was expressing his opinion . And it doesn't look like to me he's flaming anybody. He was quoting some people, but he was expressing his opinion about it, much like you guys were doing to me .
Just out of curiosity, have you ever owned a microsoft games console - xbox? Also the fact that we are defending the xbox 360 is because we have played the games console and used its functions. I dont think that 800fsbang would set up a business around games consoles/computer etc specificaly on xbox 360 just because microsoft brainwashed him.
Do you see any of us banging on about HALO? Actually as far as I recall I have not even mentioned that game on this forum - ever, neither to my knoweldge has sam (admin), so why do you all of a sudden start banging on about that game?
if your comment about retro gaming was a side comment why on earth did you mention it in the first place? we are talking about the xbox 360 here not retro gaming, if you want to talk about retro gaming go to the retro gaming part of this forum.
I would suggest that if you want to properly debate this subject then you actually keep up to date with technology news, a good place to start is the BBC: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/default.stm
If you did read technology news you will have seen that game developers are trying to bring graphics and very good game play, now seriously if you wanted to bring this whole 'gameplay' debate retro games and consoles arn't the best way to bring it up on the conterary most retro games had little or no story line at all, does pong have a storyline? I think not.
The reason that games consoles are turning into multimedia entertainment centre's is because that is what gamers want and require we saw this developing when Microsoft developed XBOX LIVE now this has expanded forcing other games console makers such as Sony to jump on board this basically means that because you are supporting sony you are contradicting yourself by saying games consoles should just be for games and only games.
Another thing that you would learn if you kept up to date with technology news is that gamers want added functionality and as you said so bluntly a internet browser, you see this is what we call progress and this is what makes the world go forward.
Also again if you kept up to date with technology news you would notice that more and more people are reverting to games consoles and if you ask me in a few years time people wont be using computers for their normal day to day use and gaming and writing documents, surfing the internet this will all be done through the use of games console or somthing similar.
Its called the future my friend so I would suggest that you get used to it as soon as possible, why do you ask? because if you dont you'll be left in the dust.
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No, I'm not a victim of Sony... You're a victim of Microsoft. The only game that MS really focuses on is Halo, which is overrated. There's a lot more better shooters out there (Unreal Tournament kicks Halo's ass, and TimeSplitters, and Red Faction). Halo's just an overrated FPS that isn't original at all =\. Microsoft just whores it out, and makes such a fuss about it.
Thats your opinion, theres massive communities out there for Halo 2,And by even saying that were victim's of Microsoft, your all for commercialism, I said and i'll say again, Thats what the competing companies WANT you to do.
The idea of videogaming, and the Xbox 360 is a better gaming experience. Soon, we wont even have TV's as we know them, Home Media Centres with Microsoft and Apple are becomeing more popular.The 360 is a very customisable and very adaptable gaming/media console. I'm sure the PS3 sould't go on sale without doing the equivalent, but we simply do not know, as it is not even out.
A video game console is designed solely for video games, and because of this they usually run alot smoother. The controls of consoles are the video game controller, and quite often this controller is a comfortable and easy to use input device. But the console has its limits, whatever is in the console, is in the console - end of story (With exception to the Xbox). But in most cases, the graphical, Auditory, and computational capabilites of a console are its limit.
A computer on the other hand, has lots of things going on inside it - whether you like it or not. This can often (but not always) slow down and hinder gameplay. But, in opposition to the video game console, the computer has almost unlimited possibilities for everything. The hardware can be exchaned for better hardware to make games run faster and smoother. However, unlike the console - the computer does not essentially use the dynamic control interface - often making gameplay uncomfortable.
While the computer is only capable of communicating to two of the senses, there is a great part of the communication in the player.
Not only in Multiplayer games where players interact with one another through the video game's interface but through the emotional and mental Interfaces of the player.
Here is how it works. The player observes the output of the video game and processes it in the mind. Then if any of what is processed is significant their may be an emotional response to this. If this happens then the player will become wholly involved in the video game experience - and it is then that a video game goes from pixels and sound waves to an epic experience. A different experience, the one you want, can be attained from both the Xbox 360, PS£ and the Wii, whichever your preference.
The 32-bit / 64-bit era was a paramount staging ground of the continuing "system wars" between the large game hardware manufacturers. "System wars" were a phenomenon in which people would attempt to evaluate the upcoming hardware of a system and purchase the system for that reason alone, speculating that the best games must be made for that hardware. Since the length of time systems spent in development had been steadily growing since the 8-bit era, and since a growing consumer awareness was making the development process more public than at any time in the past, consumers were left with a lengthy period of time in which to speculate about the strengths and weakenesses of the consoles to be released in the next generation. Many events transpired to mislead gamers during this era, further causing controversy and bitterness over the process.
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He was expressing his opinion . And it doesn't look like to me he's flaming anybody. He was quoting some people, but he was expressing his opinion about it, much like you guys were doing to me .
Both you and this other guy took the personal opinions of people and abused them.
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Poor workmanship was put into making the Xbox 360.
I don't think it's "Poor workmanship" Its just like any other product recall, it was quickly resolved.
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OMG. Have you been living under a rock for the past year or so? Xbox 360, is not the most powerful console. The PS3 is. Power, doesn't really matter, but I just thought I should point that out to you.
I don't think the PS3 is out mate.
Also, may I say, your arguements are going nowhere; you seem to be reperating yourself.
Indeed, as 800fsbgang says You are defending somebody,that is renowned for slagging certain consoles off,and getting very high rate in his posts as he clearly hates the 360,try reading all this guys posts.
A video game console is designed solely for video games, and because of this they usually run alot smoother. The controls of consoles are the video game controller, and quite often this controller is a comfortable and easy to use input device. But the console has its limits, whatever is in the console, is in the console - end of story (With exception to the Xbox). But in most cases, the graphical, Auditory, and computational capabilites of a console are its limit.
A computer on the other hand, has lots of things going on inside it - whether you like it or not. This can often (but not always) slow down and hinder gameplay. But, in opposition to the video game console, the computer has almost unlimited possibilities for everything. The hardware can be exchaned for better hardware to make games run faster and smoother. However, unlike the console - the computer does not essentially use the dynamic control interface - often making gameplay uncomfortable.
That's pretty much saying what I already said: PC's are meant for more things, mostly working and other things like that, and that consoles are meant for videogames =\.
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Although these characters are quite similar in they way they write posts,they like to quote alot and presume many things,
Maybe CarnageX + Windwaker =
I think we will dig deeper until we find the truth and we wont stop until we have justice
LMAO
If you would do an IP search (I don't know if you're capable of viewing IP's or not) on say, www.dnsstuff.com you would see that Windwaker and I are not even in the same STATE, how could we be the same person? And I'm on dial-up, and he's on broadband. You go ahead and 'dig deeper', by all means, go ahead. We're not the same person, but different people. We just have similar posting styles .
That's pretty much saying what I already said: PC's are meant for more things, mostly working and other things like that, and that consoles are meant for videogames =\.
You said that Consoles being able to play just games would be a better way to go; I simply stated that this was how it was, and that it will change as technology advances. Also I justified and argued both sides, unlike you Simple Enough?
Well, I don't know, and I'm not saing anything, but ever heard of Proxy Servers carnigeX?
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